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“The minhag has probably sources in astrology, so if you think that our DST affects the stars, your gaavah is above the migdal Bavel and should be a bigger issue for you than davening b�zmano.”
No, you can pretty easily look it up if you’re interested in the reasons behind the minhag. It isn’t related to davening b’zman; I’m not really sure what you meant with that. Some people do not adjust the minhag for DST. Not sure what’s so gaavadik about that…

Ubi:
“Obviously minhagim vary , but most do not shift � every week with zmanim. � nor should they”
Correct, that is not the common minhag, nor was I suggesting it should be. My question is that once it’s fully detached from the metzius of midday, why bother adjusting for DST?

“I suspect it isnt based on any real shita. I dont know anyone who �holds� this way”
This is confusing given that you said a few lines up:

“chatzos is not exactly 12 noon since it varies longitudinally. Yes some do adjust for this”
Your wording of “some do adjust” implies that you are aware that others do not adjust. So, a non-adjuster living in Detroit would effectively be like someone in Philly during DST: their true average noon would be about an hour off. If the non-adjusters are seemingly okay with being off for longitudinal reasons, then why not also be off due to the time change?

To be fair, your post has caused me to realize there are more adjusters than I thought. I thought almost everyone just did 6-7 simply. So each community would have to know what the average noon is for their exact longitude?