Reply To: Who is really a Gibbor? Who is really a Kadosh?

DaMoshe said: “why do you say the IDF is the �supreme temple of Zionism�?

YYA: Because it is the focal point of their value system (to the point of being what some call a ‘secular religion’). As in “Jewish Pride”TM, “Never Again”TM, etc. Just look at what some RZ write about the IDF in nearly Messianic terms (maybe not just ‘nearly’). “Dying al kedushas IDF” is to them what dying for one’s Judaism is for us.

DaMoshe said “If I had to pick something to describe as the main element of Zionism, it�s Eretz Yisrael, and due to the religious aspect.”

YYA: Because Zionism originated as a religious movement… Yearning for the Kedusha of Uganda… Love for Eretz Yisroel has nothing to do with Zionism. I moved here and I am not a Zionist. The fact that ex post facto the RZ read into Zionism “good ??????” that weren’t really there doesn’t change reality.

DaMoshe said: I�d love to see a frum government running things in Israel. I�m still a Zionist, even with that view.”

YYA: I agree that those two statements need not contradict each other.