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WolfishMusings
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Why don�t you try not talking out of both sides of your mouth for once.

In what way do you believe that I’ve been talking out of both sides of my mouth? Have I said something that is self-contradictory?

Lubavitcher chassidim believe The Rebbe is Moshiach because The Rebbe teaches that The Rebbe is Moshiach. Period and of sentence full stop.

Has the Lubatvicher Rebbe, of blessed memory, actually made a clear, unequivocal statement that he is Moshiach?

And, of course, even if he has, he still has not fulfilled the requirements of Moshiach as laid down in the Rambam.

Stop obscuring The Rebbe�s torah by pretending like you don�t understand simple logic and that chassidim made up that The Rebbe is moshiach because chassidim are supposed to feel that about their rebbe etc.

So much to cover here.

Firstly, I make it a personal point to never ascribe to malice that which can be ascribed to ignorance. How about if, instead of accusing me of faking ignorance, be dan l’kaf z’chus and assume that the questions I ask are asked at face value. I promise you, that’s how they’re meant.

“Made up?” Are you implying that the their belief is fictional? Obviously that’s not right and either you’re not being clear or I am misunderstanding. Can you please clarify what you mean by “chassidim made up that the Rebbe is Moshiach?”

In any event, Is that really true that chassidim are supposed to feel that way about their rebbe? Do Belz chassidim believe that their rebbi is Moshiach? Do Satmar chassidim believe that their rebbe is Moshiach? Certainly the Breslov chassidim don’t. In fact, I’ve never heard any chossid, aside from a Chabad chossid, proclaim their rebbe as Moshiach. So you certainly can’t say that it’s universal that chassidim are supposed to believe that their rebbe is Moshiach.

The Rebbe said clearly that the Nasi Hador is Moshiach, and very clearly referred to himself as such.

First of all, it must be pointed out that Moshiach is NOT the Nasi HaDor — Moshiach is a king, plain and simple. But that’s really beside the point. Simply because the Lubavitcher Rebbe proclaimed something to be so does not mean that it is so — certainly for those of us who do not believe that everything the Rebbe, of blessed memory, says automatically defines reality. If you’re talking to people who aren’t Chassidei Chabad, you can’t just assume that they will accept that what the Rebbe says is.

The Wolf