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�oh fur sure theres a line.
Though probably more of a percentage than a real number. MEaning
If a person makes 100,000 one year then 1,000,000 then next year yes his taxes should go up by > 100,000.�

Agreed, but that�s not what we�re talking about and you know that.

�no politiican would dream of raising taxes that much (for the average worker who didnt get a 10 fold increase in salary .�

Do you recall a former President named Barak Hussein Obama? He did exactly that. It may not have been in income tax or sales tax but it was a forced tax on the hard working makers to pay the premiums for the lazy takers and yes, my salary remained relatively the same but my health insurance costs skyrocketed by around $10,000 a year.

�However as I mentioned before there is an easy solution
I pay > 11K in premiums my boss pays the same
My boss pays me that money I sto ppaing private company. My taxes go up by 20K I pocket the remaining `3 K win win win�

As I mentioned before that�s not going to work. Your expensive health insurance plan is cheaper because they know that you�re working which puts you in a healthier and more responsible class (which is a reason employers offer it in the first place). Once you don�t get insurance through your employer you�re not in that same group anymore.

�Again. I f you dont think the government should be involved in health care this comment is crazy. As I said that is the starting point�

I�ll mention again what I�ve been writing all along. The government should be involved in health care for those who (for mental and physical reasons) can not take care of themselves as well as those who are temporarily down on their luck, I.e. as a safety net. Not for lazy people who want society to do everything for them.

�Exactly s Ive been saying I think it should be government run with the money coming from taxes, think of an expanded medicare�

Again, this will not work until people start taking responsibility for themselves and the ratio of avoidable medical expenses to unavoidable expenses gets flipped.