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HaKatan
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Chaim just posts the thing over and over no matter what anyone writes.

A machaa must be made over his statement about gedolim wanted a “homeland” in E”Y. Ch”V, as that is against the Torah. E”Y is not a homeland. It is a powerful tool that could be used to grow closer to Hashem and perform mitzvos there that cannot be done elsewhere. It is not a “homeland” like the Zionist claim.

This nonsense about post-Zionism is just that. Rav Chaim pointed out that while people like this poster think that the Zionists shmad in order to get a State (which is terrible in and of itself, of course), the truth is that the Zionists need a State in order to shmad. The evil Zionists are actively doing so today, even more so than in the past, like in the drafting yeshiva students and in their overall war on G-d and His Torah including denying their citizens even the very basics of Judaism like shema yisrael…

Rav Elchonon and others wrote that “Religious Zionism” is the same idolatry as their secular counterparts but that the “Religious” ones mix in religion to that idolatry. No, there is no mesorah for “Religious Zionism”, and you cannot bring any sefarim that support your heretical claim. Zionism of all stripes is idolatry and heresy, as our gedolim have consistently noted for over a century, regardless of how much or how at all they dealt with the Zionists pre-State and post-State.