@HaKatan
Yup Only people who you can bully and will fall for your hard rules are earnest. Everyone else is nonsense. Or is it just that you know you are wrong because I won;t agree to squeeze into the box and follow your own narrow rules that are not al pi torah? Let us set the record straight yet again.
1) You don’t need a “gadol” necessary for this. One can follow tzadkim too. And one can follow mesora such as the Rizyna mesora that says Israel is a haschlata degula and a good thing. Rizhyin had thousands of chasdim and tens of rebas. Nor do you need a sefer
2) if you want sefarim, we have from very holy jews. Eim habonim simchas was a tlamud of the michas eluzer who as staunchly anti zionsim pre war. And by the way the Minchas Eluzer’s own son-in law R Boruch’l was pro zionsist. Now I know he will be knocked. But let me tell you all something. During the war R Boruch’l risked his life many times over to warn and save Hungarian jews. Meanwhile others refused to cooperate with tzionim and seculars against r Michoel ber zl’s pleas.
3) The Holy stamar rebas sefer was not accepted by many and the reba was not indisputable despite what people say now. (Ask Klausenburg)
One more point for the readers to ponder. I heard from R Moshe wolfson zl that teh state of Israel was an hischalta degula and shiveri kelim. the six day war was a miracle too. Granted he doesn’t fit into HaKatan’s “gadol” box but whpo do you believe more? Do you believe a tzadik who hung around so many prior holy yidden like R Shloma Heiman, Modtza reba, Satmar reba, the alter skvera reba, Lubivtha reba zl? or do you think HaKatan is right? Am I “espusing Nonsense” when i qoute a holy tzadik or is someone just to stubborn to see the truth?