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HaKatan > They happen to be even more fanatical in their Zionism than are their secular counter-parts, because they worship Zionism �for real�.

you continue your circular writing, where you are using unclear terms and attack them. So far, I am presuming that you never read or taken a class from a religious zionist. Please prove me wrong and bring quotes (real, not taken out of context) from religious zionists you disagree with and discuss what you see as a problem there. If you consider them as avodah zorah and can’t open a sefer (*), maybe we can discuss R Soloveitchik, who is acknowledged as T’Ch even by those who disagree with him, and who is not 100% with everything that was done in Israel.

(*) R Eliezer is willing to produce magical cucumbers to demonstrate to R Akiva how this is done, even as that was chayav misa. So, if you ask your rov whether you can read seforim in order to argue with us, you might get permission.