Menachem has not answered whether according to Oz Nidberu lighting inside is a bracha levatala
I’m not sure what he paskens. But this is irrelevant, because:
A) The question wasn�t whether it�s a bracha levatala, but whether it�s permitted/encouraged lechatchila or considered a major kulah. According to you, we never accept directives from Gedolei Yisroel to establish a minhag based on something that appears to be a massive kulah.
B) Regardless of what Oz Nidberu rules, the question remains on you: Why do you accept recent poskim “twisting” the Shulchan Aruch to mean something that seemingly doesn’t align with the straightforward reading?
Is it because you consider them “infallible”? As Rav Ahronson wrote (and you choose to ignore), whether or not one accepts his pilpul, we are to follow the practice of the Gedolei Yisroel, even if it seems not to fit the plain meaning of the Shulchan Aruch. Is this your new opinion? If yes, why is Chabad different?
the takanah was MODIFIED, like Rav Ahronson [brought to us by daas yochid] clearly writes .
Like the consensus of the Poskim.
Opposed by Menachem
You’re so quick to argue that you completely misunderstand my view.
I don�t oppose this pshat in menorah at all. I myself light the menorah indoors. I�m simply pointing out the obvious � that this is clearly not the poshute pshat in the Shulchan Aruch.
I don�t follow this minhag because I was personally persuaded by the pilpul. Rather, I follow it because that was the practice of my Rabbeim, just as Rav Ahronson wrote at the end of his kovetz, which I quoted earlier. The pilpul only serves as extra support after the minhag was established by Gedolei Yisroel.
I�m only questioning the minhag *leshitascha*, where you claim we don�t accept a pshat dachuk in Shulchan Aruch just because it was the practice of our Rabbeim.
How many times must I repeat this simple point for it to be understood?
Menachem , whose otherwise healthy sense of logic is nebach taken captive by his preconditioned blind acceptance of anything which passes his infallible rebbi�s lips.
We should bestow upon him the top prize for mental acrobatics. Under duress.
You really can�t help yourself, eh Yankel? And then, when you fill your posts with this kind of rhetoric and I get tired of responding, you complain that I�m afraid to answer you and that “shetikah kehoda�ah.”