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YYA > The first ones to go were krum iluyim who thought they were smarter than their Rabbeim

probably, right. But how come current Mir students and probably even most YU students are not starting new movements? Of course, it was “in the air” at the time. But, also – maybe those Rebbeim were not able to protect/excite their students properly in the new environment… They say that Chofetz Chaim refused to shake hand of a Rav where Trotsky grew up.

> The secret ingredient is listening to the Gedolim, something Chassidim were and are better at�

Possibly. “Traditional” Litvish Rabonim were into learning and not into managing lives of their students. Maybe, in some circumstances, chassidic approach is preferable – and is now adopted by “Litvishe” rabbis, for better or worse.