fakenews
“Are you trying to argue that a wrap (and an ice cream cone for that matter) is only L�dabeik and therefore tafeil?”
So no. 1) I’m asking not trying to convince others Nobody agrees with me, and I’m not a baki so I assume I’m wrong I just dotn really understand why
2) Ice cream cone is nt controversial, Most say plain cones dont get a beracha .
“IIRC, Hamotzi/Mezonos are never tafeil (except when the grain is only L�dabeik).”
You do not recall correctly. See MEchaber 212:1 when eating salty fish with bread, bread only eaten not to harm throat make a shehakol. MB limits this to when you have no interest in the bread/cracker at all, however if have some interest then make hamotzi/mezonos even though its “tafel”
Which I guess brings us to Halevai’s point “but pretty sure it�s because it is filling. ” If thats the case 100% needs a beracha probabl yhamotzi
Do you know if it depends on indiidual? OR do we say look at most people?