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YYA> difference between studying a �trade� = ??????, and studying �secular lnowledge� = ????? ????????.

Yes, I understand that the Rav was interested in umanut (which is an explicit Gemora Kiddushin 30 universally applicable to most parents, except R Nehorai) and not at all interested in science, which even those who were more into science, from R Gamliel to Shmuel to Rambam to R Hirsch to R Soloveitchik. would admit is relevant to some people. I still do not understand why in Hungary he insisted on non-Jewish teachers. Maybe you are right that in Hungarian contest, the school started with academic subjects, while Israeli system he envisioned was pure uneducated umanut, histadrut-style – farming and construction and not doctors and lawyers. Similar to the trade school path in Germany. Also, Hungary was real life, while his Palestinian system was a lofty dream.

I brought academic loshon as is, just to pick up the info that might be there. I am not sure what are the implications of herem. Seems like it was litvishe with hungarians disagreeing. Why was he treated harsher than r Kook, even if his on-the-ground activities were of less impact?

Also, seemingly his position on money distribution seem to indicate that the existing charedi system was built to protect benefits for the residents rather than encourage others to come – and Rav was trying to change that – enabling increased immigration.