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@ZSK:
Before calling names, you might want to learn the actual history, not nonsense propaganda (and just ignorance).
No, it is your so-called analysis which is totally ignorant. To your “points”:

1. The Chevron Massacre of course occurred AFTER the Zionists invaded and BECAUSE OF Zionism.
To clarify, though, the Jews who moved there non-politically, like the students of the GR”A and how Chovevei started, are obviously not “invaders”. Even the Mufti YM”S told Rav Yosef Chaim that he had no problem with Jews coming to live there, only if the Jews would try to rule over them which is what the Zionists did in the name of Jewry. But Jews, like anyone else, may choose to live anywhere in the world. So, “invasion” remains appropriate when describing the Zionists.

2. Your question about the White Paper and the Brits “slamming shut” the doors in 1939 again totally missed the historical context. This was AFTER decades of Zionist agitation after the Zionists invaded DECADES before, including Zionist terror against both the local British and the Arabs. In other words, if not for the Zionists, not only would the Holocaust not have happened, but the British would have opened the doors of Palestine to Jews, not slammed them shut due to Zionist agitation in the holy land.

3. The British were perfectly capable of defending the Jews, but the Zionists agitated and terrorized both the Arabs and British leading up to 1948. The Zionist precursor-armies had been in action for decades before 1948. As well, the only reason the Arabs massed in 1948 was the impending Zionist declaration of their “State”. Regardless, even if that Arab massing had been totally unrelated, the Zionists could still have used their armies as they had but not taking that final inflammatory step of declaring a “State”.

4. This is the most obvious of all the points noted. The Brisker Rav criticized Agudah for even contemplating working with the Zionists prior to 1948 due to the tremendous rivers of Jewish blood that would be and were needed to establish that “State”. The Satmar Rav writes the same criticism about the Zionists’ war in 1967, that it, too, could have been avoided. Zionism also caused the Holocaust. That’s not very pro-Jewish life. In that Holocaust, the Zionists explicitly and repeatedly (and confirmed years later that they would not have done any differently) and proudly prioritized Zionism over saving Jewish lives. Zionism above all else, including Jewish lives. Ask any honest Zionist for the truth; it is that simple.

5. No, the forever wars were launched by the Zionists who should never have invaded in the first place and who agitated terror and wars in the decades prior to 1948.