Reply To: Who is really a Gibbor? Who is really a Kadosh?

AAQ said: “I asked another senior yeshivishe rov. He understood my question and said � if you don�t know brochos and kashrus, you are not a Yid, but middos and nezikin not so �”

Whoa, that is not good… I never heard anything remotely close to that expressed by my Roshei Yeshiva. “Not knowing Nezikin”, as in Dinei Mamonos in the basic practical sense, can easily result in violation of multiple issurim d’oraysa without flinching. Something many Mussar works point out. Brachos are very important and are a constant reminder of our relationship with Hashem, but on the technical ‘scale’ so to speak they are d’rabbonon. (Actually ???? ?????? means ???? ????? which includes Krias Shma and Bentching also, as well as Tefillah.) As for writing off Middos as ‘extra credit’, it is impossible to truly keep anything of the Torah, even ??? ??? ?????, without Middos. If someone can’t have a normal relationship with people who he can see and (hopefully) empathize with, how can he have a real relationship with Hakadosh Baruch Hu? Check out Toras Avigdor (Marsha’s Vayeshev of this year – Ladder of Loyalty) for an excellent discussion of this.

WRT the first Rov/Maggid Shiur, since the topic at hand was Brachos, so he stayed on topic. The second Rov ??? ??? ?????.