“Harav HaGoan” posted: “starwolf: can you quote anything relevant to back up your statements (books, articles, research papers)? Just spare us any more MO pride drivel. “
Sure, just as soon as you post a few references for your point of view–sparing us any sinat chinam drivel. But if you are referring to the Shoah, the list of Yad Vashem publications is a good place to start.
You don’t like the fact that I am proud of the accomplishments of the Statre of Israel and the Modern Orthodox? Too bad. We have accomplished so much. What makes the Modern Orthodox unique is that we know that it is not only Am Yisrael who have accomplished so much–only with the help of Avinu Shebashamayim have we done this.
I do understand why “MO pride” bothers you. What exactly has the Hareidi sector accomplished in the same amount of time? Yes, there are a great many Torah institutions around, also built with the help of Avinu Shebashamayim–and what percentage of them have been built without the help of the Modern Orthodox?
If you live in the US, not a wek goes by without receiving solicitations from Yeshivot, kollelim, and various other Hareidi enterprises–the volume can be staggering. And clearly, the MO give–otherwise it would hardly be worthwhile for these mass-mailings to be sent to the membership lists of MO Shuls. No problem there–happy to help. It is a different story, however, when people from that same stream of society spew sinah and contemptfor our way of life. And the sinah and contempt are NOT mutual; otherwise we would keep our hard-earned money for those institutions following our own derech.