i also don’t understand one thing. why cling to a belief and ideal that is self-admittedly (i just made up a word) failing.in the O community intergender mingling is looked upon with didain although it does occur- pizza shops etc. MO has co-ed camps. why don’t their leaders put a cherem on it if its opposed to their ideal. there are no reactions to everything wrong that happens. it makes no sense.
