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Calling a letter a troll – alhtough i’ve no idea why one might think so is just decide so – is simply denying that the letter writer mught have a valid point.

Jewish feminist:

Your moshol is very sweet, but at least in the leter writer’s opinion, the moshol is that of a man drowning, who, when someone offered him a rope to enable him to stay alive in the water accepted it, when asked why he didn’t appreciate he said, “you sent a rope because you wanted to fish, and hey, it was you who threw me in the water in the first place.”

Yichusdik:

I clearly heard R’ avidgor miller say that k’lal yisroel have ZERO nationalistic aspirations OTHER than those that are clearly rotoin hashem. I am happy to hear if other gedoilim held differently, but it has little bearing on whether those who are opposed to basic idea of a jewish owe hakoras hatoiv to soldiers.